Wasanelder Once

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  Delightful Xmas TV advert................................

  by The Fall Guy in

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  ....................which was rejected by the john lewis corporation who opted for a video which features a monster under a kid's bed!

  pity.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd_0biuzghg.

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  Aw, the fantasy of predator and prey as metaphor. Touching.
  
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  1st month of fading

  by Jrjw in

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  i'm nearly at the end of my first month of becoming inactive.

  only my daughter knows.

  i've had a cold half of the month so no questions or pressure has been put on me yet.

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  Don't play their game. Move and don't go to a meeting. Don't let them put a face to the name if they don't know you. Those that do, will simply think you are spiritually weak and VERY few will actually try to encourage you, Move on. If you do the Pub card BS you will give them power over you. Just move on. If anyone questions you just tell them its not a subject you wish to discuss right now, end of discussion. Be strong without being rude.
  
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  Intro

  by jc1985 in

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  hello all, many years i have been lurking on this site.

  gradually i’ve learned the real truth, gone from serving as a servant and at bethel to inactive for almost a year, barely ever wasting time going to meetings.

  my family is large and very active and so is my wife’s so leaving altogether is difficult.. though it seems now that everything is about to change.

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  Welcome JC1985. I am assuming you do not have children. I certainly hope not. Good to know someone is being benefited by our conversations on here. "Lonely" will pass. You don't have to disfellowship you family, still love them. You just might find out who really believes the lie anymore. All the best, don't isolate yourself from people, internet people or people in real life. We are here to help.
  
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  Annoyed

  by Kas12 in

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  i had this friend at school who is bisexual and she asked me to date twice both times i said no im not interested in girls that way but then she told everyone that we were dating and now im being called gay and lesbian.

  one boy in my class said to me that im going against jws and then started calling me gay and other names.

  then another girl in my class said theres nothing wrong with being gay and im being brainwashed by the jws..

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  Amen JP
  
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  Confused

  by Kas12 in

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  i am 12 years old and im confused because my mam is leaving the truth after 12 years and i want to celebrate xmas but she still doesnt believe that should do it coz even though shes realised society has lied about things she still believes in god.

  im unsure whether i believe in god or not but i havent really looked into it much ..

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  I like turtles.
  
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  Do you have a place to get away from it all?

  by compound complex in

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  is your retreat .

  an actual location, or simply a quiet place in your mind?.

  i attended a concert on sunday, a featured piece having been commissioned by a composer who lives in the city but retreats to an island in the puget sound (usa) to write his music.

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  Wasanelder Once

  John said it best and this cover is lovely:

  There's a Place
  
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  Name A Problem That Nationalism Has Solved

  by Fred Franztone in

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  are there any?.

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  It has spread the scourge of "the Limbo" worldwide.
  
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  Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)

  by freddo in

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  so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.

  he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.

  (knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.

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  jp 1692, "Sure we can. We might understand him, but that doesn’t excuse the inexcusable. Everyone—EVERYONE—is ultimately responsible for the consequences of their decisions and their actions."

  Fault a man in his mid 80's?, go ahead. How are we "excusing" him? The guy is likely near death and now locked in a mental and emotional prison. The only hope he has known is false and of course he is responsible for his own actions. I hate to break it to you but he no doubt hasn't a malicious bone in his body. Go ahead and hate. I think a little discernment and understanding is called for. Better he dies with some hope than none. We know its a fantasy, but is it our job to judge him for a lifetime of folly and think ill of him? You must have had it rough JP.
  
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  Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)

  by freddo in

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  so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.

  he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.

  (knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.

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  Some old timers think that if they stick it out their loved ones will at least have a faithful example to reflect on and it might just save their lives. Cant fault the old guy.
  
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  Pacifism is Morally Indefensible

  by cofty in

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  i have been surprised recently to see so much support by ex-jws for the watchtower's refusal to fight and kill.

  in my opinion it is a vice masquerading as a virtue.

  of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done.

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  The reality is, If I choose not to fight I will likely not suffer the loss of my life or those of my children. World war 2 was on another continent as you'll recall. All wars are economic, don't kid yourself. Nothing involving war/governments is ever black and white.

  "Of course war should always be a last resort but there are occasions that it has to be done. The Third Reich had to be stopped by deadly force."

  Not so clear cut. "General Motors was far more important to the Nazi war machine than Switzerland," said Bradford Snell, who has spent two decades researching a history of the world's largest automaker. "Switzerland was just a repository of looted funds. GM was an integral part of the German war effort. The Nazis could have invaded Poland and Russia without Switzerland. They could not have done so without GM."

  Maybe if the U.S. had less greed the war wouldn't have been so large? People wouldn't have to die for Democracy?